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Subject: Re: help with packet driver

tewald ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I'm logging onto the Net via modem, phone line, and my alma mater's UNIX

: Any suggestions?  I'm on a 386/40, with a 2400 baud modem. And Windows
: 3.1.                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

: Thanks.
: Thomas Ewald
: [e-mail]

Heh, I hate to say this, but from what I've heard, using SLIP with
anything less than a 9600 baud modem can be verrryyyyy slow.  You
may want to consider upgrading to faster modem before experimenting
with Winsock/SLIP.

Mike
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Subject: NFS client

    Anyone know of a free/share-ware NFS client for Windows or DOS using Winsock?


Bryon
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Subject: Re: WinIrc

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Susan Makalinaw) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Susan Makalinaw)
>Subject: WinIrc
>Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 19:39:27
>Keywords: WinIrc

>I too have been using WINIRC...it's worked great and I recommend it.

>Sue

Where did you get it?  I can't find anything called "WinIRC" anywhere...
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From: [e-mail] (Tommi)
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Subject: Re: things

In article <2sconm$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
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>Date: 30 May 1994 13:12:22 GMT

>Hm.  Please excuse part of this, I did this to test and see if I had posting
>capability.  It seems as though I do!  Right now I'm using QVT to post news, are
>there any other decent NNTP readers for Winsock?  I have checked at several diff.
>ftp sites, but couldn't find one.  Also, the three mail packages I've found for
>Winsock are: Eudora, WinElm, and QVT.  Someone mentioned Pegasus, but I'm not sure
>where to get it, and not only that, is it worth it?


NNTP:  Try Trumpet for Windows (newsreader, not winsock :) or WinVN.  Both
should be readily available at ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the /pub/pc3/winsock
directory.

MAIL:  You have it pegged most of the way; most of us (I think?) use Eudora as
our winsock mail client.... Pegasus is, from what I understand, very nice
indeed, but it also not free.... it's a commercial product.

Hope This Helps...

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Tommi

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The above are my thoughts; if you don't like them, don't read them!
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Subject: MS TCP/IP Daytona Beta problem (programming)

I'm writing a program (in WFWG 3.11) that uses MS's Daytona Beta winsock
implementation.  However, when I try to bind() a socket to my local address I
get a WSAEADDRINUSE error, even if I had set the SO_REUSEADDR option to TRUE
using setsockopt().  I tried running my program on NetManage's winsock and it
worked, so I figured it's MS winsock's problem.

Does anyone have any suggestions or workarounds?

Alan

P.S. I'm using the beta dated 4/4/94.
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Subject: Re: Mosiac, Chameleon or ?

In message <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Jerry Hobby) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (ROGER
HEATH) writes:
>>Path:
>>uuneo.neosoft.com!news.uh.edu!swrinde!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.
gt
>>efsd.com!MathWorks.Com!news.kei.com!ddsw1!northern!roger.heath
>>From: [e-mail] (ROGER HEATH)
>>Newsgroups: alt.winsock
>>Subject: Mosiac, Chameleon or ?
>>Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 03:07:00 GMT
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>>Organization: Great Northern BBS (708)-634-9368 Buffalo Grove, IL. USA
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>
>>Which is best, Mosaic, Chameleon, or Cello?
>
>>I hear mixed results with each one, but it appears Cello has the fewest
>>complaints and is simplest to use...?
>
>Chameleon provides the winsock.dll and a few applications.  It does not
>include a product that competes directly with Mosaic or Cello.
>
>Mosaic seems to have fewer problems than Cello, but Cello does not support
>the "field edit" features of html, while Mosaic does.  At least my
>version ofCello doesn't.  However, I am sure than Mosaic will stabilize
>with the next release, and I am also confident thatCello will begin
>supporting the "field edit" before long too.
>
>Personally, I like the look and feel of Mosaic better, but Cello is more
>flexible in that Cello allows more configuration options from the
>pull-down menus.
>
>>Also, rather than run WIN32S wouldn't it be better just to go to NT?
>
>Windows NT requires a lot more memory than Windows 3.1.  Windows 4.0 will
>be released this year (so I hear), and it is a 32 bit version that will
>not require as many resources as NT does.  Windows 4.0 is the appropriate
>version to have, but since it has not been released yet, the next best
>option is the Win32S upgrade.
>
>>We are just starting up and need feedback...
>
>If it were my decision, I would install Win32S and Mosaic.  Of course, you
>will still need a winsock, and for that, I have found bugs in Chameleon
>which don't exist in the Trumpet winsock.
>
>
>    ____________________                    Jerry Hobby, Houston, TX
>            ____________________            [e-mail]
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I agree as long as you are not going over a serial link.  If you are doing SLIP
or PPP I would look seriously into FTPs kernel and mosiac over that.  It comes
with a WINSOCK.DLL that is a lot less buggy than NetManages's.  Don't tell
them, but for a lot of their apps that did not make NEWT calls I used them over
FTP's WINSOCK.  I've never had any problems using Trumpet over FTP's WINSOCK.

Good Luck


John